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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:06 pm

Post subject: Re: Timothy McVeigh?

oclock9
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Timothy McVeigh is in fact a 32 degree mason under the clandestine jurisdiction of a body called the Confederate Grand Lodge of North America which incidentally claims to have several regular, mainstream southern Grand Masters and PGM's in their ranks as well. They had a secure site set up at one time but it was forced off the internet by pressure instigated by the Prince Hall Phylaxis Society.

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>Leomarth wrote:

>I saw on a anti site that I was checking out that Timothy McVeigh was a 32. Any truth to this? Just curious really.

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From: JD Kukenbaker (jdkukenbaker@aol.com)
Subject: A 32nd Degree Mason Has Died

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Date: 2001-06-11 05:26:38 PST

I am sadden to inform you that Timothy McVeigh 32*, a 11 year member of the Masonic fraternity was executed my lethal injection, a few moments ago.

Let us remember him in our prayers.

J.D. Kukenbaker 33*
Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Freemasons of North America

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From: JD Kukenbaker (jdkukenbaker@aol.com)
Subject: My 33rd Degree
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Date: 2001-06-12 02:09:44 PST

Many brothers have ridiculed and doubted my 33rd degree since it was not conferred by their Scottish Rite bodies.

It is true that I am not a 33rd degree Mason in the Southern, Northern, or Canadian jurisdictions. I was invested with my 33rd degree by the Grand Lodge of Freemasons of North America (GLFNA). The GLFNA confers the 'Blue Lodge' degrees as well as the 4th thru 33rd degrees. In much the same way as a few lodges in Louisiana do.

I have been a Freemason for 33 years. It took me 3 years to be passed from Entered Apprentice to Fellowcraft and another 4 to be Raised to the Sublime Degree of Master Mason. Each degree require intense study and qualification before the members of my lodge.

The 4th to the 32nd degree took 10 more years. And 5 years later I was invested with the 33rd Degree. No, I did not forget about the KCCH. The GLFNA does not have the KCCH.

I was not a 1 day Master Mason and certainly not a 1 or 2 day Scottish Rite wonder.

S & F,

J.D. Kukenbaker, 33*
Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Freemasons of North America

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From: JD Kukenbaker (jdkukenbaker@aol.com)
Subject: Grand Lodge List by J.D.
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Date: 2001-06-12 02:34:45 PST

I must apologize for not listing the origin of the 'Grand Lodges of the World' website link (http://www.bessel.org/gls.htm) that I posted.

The website was created and maintained by Paul M. Bessel {bessel.paul@verizon.org}. The link was posted on soc.org.freemasonry on June 6, 2001, under the thread "US Grand Lodges".

My statement about over "300 Grand Lodges in the United States" was based off a statement made by Mike Wells, Normal #673 AF&AM Illinois {mgwblmtn@fgi.net}, within the "US Grand Lodges" thread on soc.org.freemasonry on June 6, 2001.

I am only stating these facts since Fellowcraft Fruge is new and ignorant about Freemasonry. He derides and ridicules anything I have to say since in his Masonic infancy he considers me a "clandestine" Mason.

S & F,

J.D. Kukenbaker, 33*
Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Freemasons of North America

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From: JD Kukenbaker (jdkukenbaker@aol.com)
Subject: The Link for FC Fruge and others
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Date: 2001-06-11 20:22:44 PST

As Fellowcraft Fruge and other requested, here is a link to all the Grand Lodges of the world.

http://www.bessel.org/gls.htm

S & F,

J.D. Kukenbaker, 33*
Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Freemasons of North America

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From: SSG Russo (ssgrusso@aol.comnojunk)
Subject: Re: Grand Lodges

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Date: 2001-06-12 13:21:46 PST

Brother Manny,

To our misfortune here in Virginia, the Grand Lodge of North America has set up shop and has proceeded to beguile young men in a straight line from Fort Lee to Virginia Beach.

They set for themselves a very grueling standard and push their candidates very hard to learn their ritual and catechisms. In true Freudian analogy they work their candidate to overcompensate their lack of regularity and work overtime to prove to themselves they are real masons.

It is a very sad state when one of their numbers thinks they are a Mason and then goes home or changes duty stations and comes to the realization no one will communicate with them nor allow them to sit in Lodge.

A very sad state indeed.

I remain your obdeient friend and brother,

Jason C. Russo
JD, Blandford #3, VA 29, A.F. & A.M.
Petersburg Union RA #7
32d, Valley of Richmond, OVA SJ AASR

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From: Kirk Richardson (ihatespamtwitch231@home.com)
Subject: Re: Grand Lodges

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Date: 2001-06-12 20:27:02 PST

So Timothy Mc Veigh was a member of a clandestine GL?

Not that it matters, if Paul Bernardo were ever to die, I would not hasten to be sad that a Mason died, as he apparently never was where it counts, in his heart, though I am always saddened by a loss of human life, regardless of their relation to FM, or even their sins etc.

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